SIGNAL Podcast: Building fast, staying sane: Picnic's CTO on agentic AI

The conversation about agentic AI has moved fast. How does it change software engineering? Where do you draw the line between what agents can (and should) do autonomously, and where you prioritize human control? 

That’s exactly what we’re going to talk about in this episode of the SIGNAL podcast, with Picnic’s CTO Daniel Gebler.

This podcast goes live on May 13 at 9:00 AM CEST.

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Daniel is co-founder and CTO of Picnic, the online supermarket built on 350 engineers and around 100 applications across three countries. He recently judged an Open Claw Hackathon in Amsterdam, where 75 engineers delivered 32 submissions in 8 hours.  

What he saw there says a lot about where the AI builder community actually stands. 

Werner Heijstek sits down with Daniel to talk about:

  • what agentic AI is doing to software engineering,
  • how Picnic governs it in practice, and
  • what organizations can do to move faster, responsibly. 

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Daniel Gebler
co-founder & CTO, Picnic
Werner Heijstek
Podcast host & Senior Director IT Strategy, Software Improvement Group

The SIGNAL podcast, powered by Software Improvement Group, is a monthly show where we turn complex IT topics into business clarity. Hosted by Werner Heijstek, Senior Director at Software Improvement Group.

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